Here is a transcript-by-memory of a conversation I had with the instructor:
Me: Do any of the kids do any actual programming?Me: (Beating my head against the wall)...
Instructor: Oh, yeah. Have you heard of Scratch?
Me: Yes. That's basically like MindStorms; you tell it to move the figure three steps this way, two steps that way. I mean actual coding.
Ins: Sure! Some kids even make webpages.
Me (trying very hard not to laugh in his face): No, I mean actual programming, like goto subroutine, if this then that.
Ins: No, not really.